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[00:00:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Today's guest is Kenneth Ellington, a Cybersecurity Instructor who helps cyber security professionals get hands-on knowledge, advanced-decarirs and boost their salaries inside the security.
[00:00:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Kenneth shared some incredible insight and in this video you will learn three key tips to help you break into cyber security.
[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You'll learn about seam and saw what they are used for in cyber security roles and how someone goes about learning this system.
[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You will also learn about Kenneth's incredible journey through his six-year career as a cyber security profession.
[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But before we watch I want to ask you one thing. When I look at the analytics I see that of the people who watch the videos on this channel,
[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_01]: only 14% are subscribed to the channel. That's up 1% from the last video. Amazing!
[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But let's keep pushing that and get their number up and that will really help us so much. Now let's get right into the video.
[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_01]: In your instructor, you'll want to know those people who help other people
[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: with getting into cyber security or losing their careers in that sort of thing.
[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought this would be a perfect question to ask you. The question is,
[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: if you were to advise someone three key steps to breaking into cyber security get in the first job,
[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: what would those three steps be?
[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: First one is temporary expectations. For most things in life that are really worked at right,
[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_00]: it's part of going to take a few longer than you expect and just be like mentally prepared for that as far
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_00]: as you're noticing. As very likely some have been like an among or two or maybe even six,
[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: right? I think you'd be up a year ago and it looked like a different way. But the biggest thing
[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably say is to be consistent in diligent and what you're doing. So temporary expectations
[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and you'll be better and no longer. This is a marathon that is sprint right. You're going to
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_00]: put a long lasting to settle career in life. So have those mental expectations tamper a little bit.
[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Second thing I'll tell people is that basically, um, I should put this treat it like you really
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: care about it because after the is very hard to get inside, I write a page really well actually
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_00]: the benefits. It's also very competitive. For example if you want to be a doctor right,
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: you wouldn't in fact get an after like a couple months or two or maybe even a year right.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You understand to me very hard but you can get paid a lot, right? Be doing well. So understand
[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: that it's gonna be a lot of work is wanted to be very difficult while the times but it will
[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_00]: be worth it. You know what you're doing right? Third thing I would tell people is
[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_00]: slern stuff with people that really care about you outside of your job and then when she
[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_00]: they want to see you succeed, it would grow as if the opportunity helps them are not right.
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you are about to sum the five five one company fully hang around with it
[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: think is what we're sure so. So right? Yep. So if you hang around with don't take
[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: them self don't care about you they can't know how to screw off right and don't care about the
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_00]: careers. You're naturally gonna fall in line with them right so if we don't have a good support group
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: no matter how technically smart or talented you are you probably won't do too well.
[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's there's just three keys I would tell people. Well no those are really good and um yeah
[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I like the I like that you you're honest with people and you have to be serious about about this
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_01]: career. It could definitely be high paying in the future it's not an easy thing to just get into
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: and so there's definitely people out there who are like I want to get self security how do I do it
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_01]: bang and they have an expectation of I've been applying for a month I've been learning things
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_01]: for a month and I am not getting anywhere and there's like this is a marathon like you can't
[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: you've got to set the expectation that you're gonna be working at this for a certain period of time
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: before you get that opportunity. So that's some great advice and the other things you said
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: is well which is amazing and and you talk about your experience with Sim and Saw and just just for
[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: audience could you give a bit of an explanation about scene and so and what exactly it is
[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah you start with what it what it is. Sure thing I'll talk about Sim. So Sim said first
[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: it could be a security information event management system or mine system depending on who you
[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: have. So basically what that is if you ever heard a life's blank, you read or write a self
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: component. So basically what it is is all your end point of advice is generate some type of
[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_00]: login data machine or your data where the game may be right. While it's time, it's kind of
[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: randomized and it's not readable by human rights. So with a Sim platform we'll do or any login
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_00]: engine platform for you. Oh Corly and aggregate that data instead of a sexualised platform
[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: so you're able to build detection rules on it Corly data build the visualizations off of it
[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: using even network and data that's updated. I teach intelligent data, this is intelligent data
[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_00]: so I just can read data. This depends on what you want to use right. So if you have a Mac, a Windows
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: server, a Linux server, your phones, your IoT devices, the generate logs, firewalls, on that DRs,
[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_00]: EDRs so if that will get sent towards my platform and I'll manage it basically and then you're
[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_00]: at the SOAR component from that. So SOAR is a much more advanced platform. I would say unless you're
[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: like tier 3, I like tier 4 for security like maturity posture, remember you won't have it.
[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So SOAR stands for security or frustration automation and response. But actually what that does
[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_00]: is that automation or frustration to instant response process, my search box, my spot is out there.
[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So whenever it's like an alert turn from to instant it means it's actually seriously needs to be
[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_00]: investigated. That platform will help to manage that organized at pool. I should put this kind of
[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_00]: organized, we have different applications right like CrowdStrike, Sentinel1, Fire, RZCR, stuff like that.
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: They can pull the action using APA calls to handle investigations and automate the processes using
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: playbooks around books and stuff like that. Amazing, amazing. That's a great, great explanation
[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and what they're used for as well. So if you could just go back and tell us the difference between
[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: the two platform, one is the management platform, one is the automation response platform.
[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Like how do we differentiate the two? What's the key differences between Simmons so? Sure thing.
[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: So for Sim, that is much more reactive right. So when you're building the text on rules,
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: you're building it based off of known signals that you are in order to happen right.
[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is, you get the way for it to happen right. You don't know how to interact with
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: we going out and trying to stop it right. Compared with a solar platform,
[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: you're normally more actively trying to actually stop. I thought from happening before
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: happened so I opened one more threatening some more of my sort of response stuff, more a little more
[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_00]: digital forensics stuff. The second thing a lot of time you start the way that something happens right
[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: but you build up more proactive with a solar platform compared towards with the Sim platform, my
[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Korean. Amazing. And these tools are super important for many, many security animals,
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: roles or security engineers, most, let me not say most, a lot of cybersecurity engineers
[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: will be using some sort of simple platform and others may be using platforms.
[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And so it is important thing for people to learn as a key thing that if you do have a good
[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: understanding over experience with, it puts you in a good position of getting into the industry.
[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So I wanted to ask you on that note how does someone actually go about learning
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_01]: to use these platforms, learning to manage them, how do they go about that process?
[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's different learning resources that you can use. You can get hands on jobs
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: experience from your job so if you work for like an MSP, I've relied class or let's say I'm
[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: all so normally you get a hands-on training from them. The quality and level of it will always
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: vary so by or be aware when they're working with them. Same for hand-to-back from honestly.
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? Or you can do, for not already working to fit the field, you can get hands-on platform or hand-on
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: experience with it. You can use like I think let's defend, try to hack me. I'll say those are pretty
[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_00]: good if you're pretty new towards anyone at baseline or setting up it. They go more or I would say
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: a mile-wide and an inch deep. Right? And then for what we do for our training program, we go more
[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: of a mile deep and an inch wide. So we pick very specific platforms in areas such as SIM,
[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_00]: SOAR, and EGT, right? Like for example they don't teach retaining because I don't only
[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_00]: pay attention to instance, I don't want to teach it. So you go really deep in some of those
[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_00]: areas where people that want to niche in I'm niche in specialized in those areas. Right? So if
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: you want to be like the side three consultants, specialized in the SIM and SOAR, you know if
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: we want to be an EGT or an engineer, you want to be a senior analyst or lead analyst, right? We can
[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: help you get towards a level of the program to specifically design for that, right? I don't cover
[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: everything because that'll be everything from my job, right? And it's next to me T-Self
[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: that I don't want to do or if not a part-time mission plan. So you go really deep inside of
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: those areas. The flip side on it is more expensive, but it's much more tailored to your individual
[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_00]: learning needs, right? So normally what I say is toward people is if you never touch any SIM
[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: this or platform, do like left-step and for a couple months, do like try to hack me for a little
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: bit. And then you're like, then if you're like hey man, I love this area, I actually want to
[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_00]: kind of specialize in and get more information with it. Come to the last in the CV, right? We're
[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_01]: just to touch on what you said, you know, of all the areas in cyber super broad obviously
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: for your career and for those getting into cyber security, why go this route? Why then
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_01]: SIM and SOA platforms over the other things. Why did you? And why would you say it is a good place for
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: people to get in or to increase their knowledge? So for my personal learning journey, I fell
[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_00]: over the platform and I worked at public supermarkets. People have been talking to South
[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_00]: with the USA, I'm a drawover of the place, I love working there, I thought it was a wonderful
[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_00]: experience. When I worked there, I really got to use this month and spoken up my security. I used
[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_00]: like 40 hours, 45 hours per week. I can't work though I'm up with it right. One I had a lot of
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_00]: access to see everyone's data sealed their donors. I thought it was going to pretty me. I was
[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: 20 years old. I guess you will work with me as a second for sending like the pictures and messages
[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_00]: right where they're searching that one other searching it up. I'm like guys, like I'm only still
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_00]: like a kid, like I gave this much power. I thought there was really cool. Second reason is it forces
[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: you to learn a lot of different areas of cyber security because you are just in long, some very
[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_00]: different platforms. Do you need anything? How to develop or sync right? How to develop or
[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: develop, so you know what I'm saying? Never can do it right because if you're running investigations
[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: all of the times, you know what I said, fun and more networking, flexible, right? Ports, IP addresses,
[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_00]: writing numbers, right? Mac addresses, right? How are those going to fit towards you? How can you
[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: block those? How can I research like paper from techniques, right? So understanding those funnel
[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_00]: concepts are a part to do this work right. That's why thought it was really cool that I got to
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_01]: set it up and I love the point about obviously if you're reviewing logs from the whole company
[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: and all of the platforms they use, you're going to come across these different platforms and even
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[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And just to go on further from there, I mean you briefly touched on your story and your journey
[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_01]: through tech. And I want to get into that a little bit more. So let's talk about your story and if
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: you could briefly walk me through your journey in tech from beginning to where you can't really are
[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and I know it's a long journey. I mean, this is six years but you know, talk about some of those
[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: key moments in your journey and how you got to your current position. Sure thing. So my dad's actually
[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_00]: a software engineer who's been with her past like 28 years now, I think. So he's just going to kind
[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: of question me remember if they're going instead of technology and then we're going to do it.
[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially I didn't want to do it right. So let me do like to score the academy,
[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: what the moment of course during summer when I was in medical. That was a thousandth of the
[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_00]: lame mistake ever. Like pops you tell me basically someone pays you a bunch of money to type
[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: and keyboard all day and that sounds really stupid I want to do it. So I didn't do it. So when I graduated
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: from high school, I went to college, what we call first, I did undergrad was business management.
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Then what went on with the U of SF for my undergrad, my normal college stuff. It was the business
[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: management. But I come with it like niche down and get better job profits after graduate.
[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: So if I pops and I can do that, I'm a way erasized specializing. He's like, how about IT?
[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of like, oh I'm like, I'm like this is a great idea. So I kind of did IT
[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and then I started to pivot toward more self security. One of the things I tell my students is
[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_00]: let people know what their true desires are. So I was speaking of the happening and not
[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_00]: inside of the room, right? The clothes mouth don't get fit. If I don't know what you want to do,
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: you can help us out of your, outside your free time or business stuff, right? I can't help you out,
[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_00]: right? I can't read minds. So I told everyone that everything that wasn't towards me that I wanted
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_00]: to do is actually to do your IT, right? And loan behold my store manager time on Lori said, hey,
[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_00]: can I? Have you said you'll do IT in service here, do you? I'm like, yeah, she's like, oh well,
[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_00]: the work to perceive security, provokes is coming towards a store in a couple weeks. Do you want to meet
[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_00]: them? Like oh yeah, sure, of course, right? And so I met Rick. He sat me down, right?
[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Love my energy attitude. He's like, can I? I don't feel work for me next summer. Like, oh great.
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, he's like, but he's like, there are things that I'm going to need you to do for
[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_00]: next year basically. He said, you can do everything on the social center that I'm going to give you.
[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want guarantee you spot on my internship team next year. I'm not going to do it. He
[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_00]: means the thing I need to do, get security plus study for spot. But two two go to two different
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: conferences. I think cyber conference reporter and then B sites in Tampa. And then Shadow was 10.
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I did all that over the past like nine months. This is December 2018. Bad for tours in March of 2019.
[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I interviewed with a team. I get the job. That's how I got how I got that sat security.
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: From there, I did work as a software engineer. I was going to graduate at a job at UI as a
[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_00]: 7th and a work consultant. You didn't see your work. And then I do have the UI to look sick of.
[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And that weren't run on business all the time. That's incredible. Incredible. And that story is
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_01]: really cool. Man that really shows like the power of net reckon. It sounds pretty crazy because
[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_01]: all you really did to start that off was just tell people. And the funny thing is it wasn't even
[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_01]: people that were in that area. It's like I want to get into tech into cyber and I'm just telling
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_01]: my store manager. And somehow there's a connection to someone else who works in cyber and who has
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_01]: the hiring power to give you an internship, which is really cool. And I think that's a good lesson
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: for the audience or for anyone trying to get into any role. Talk to people about it.
[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're trying to get into tech, you need to be outside saying to others that I am trying
[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_01]: to get into tech. This is what I'm trying to do. One, there's people that could give you some
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: advice on that. There's also people who could help you on that path and even offer you positions.
[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So, so that's I really set out in your story and that's really really cool.
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would say it's not complicated. It's taking me to a teacher's students. It's just hard
[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: to be consistent about it, right? It's awkward, right? You know, it's like the things you
[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_00]: really want to do, right? People with autism can get labdact or called stupid, right?
[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You had to kind of get over that fear of looking forward, right? And then go out there. Right?
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: The more you want to look down in public, the better opportunities you will get in the long run.
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I definitely found that out really quickly throughout my career.
[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: That's such a quote. We're going to quote that and put it into a put it on our page, man.
[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Go be willing to look down. You really have to.
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That makes it so much sense. And yeah, yeah, it's really cool. I wanted to jump into
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: another question and I wanted to, well, I asked this question to everyone actually
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: to everyone who comes on to the podcast and I wanted to ask you this question as well.
[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: It is a question of your most interesting career story. The most interesting thing
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: has happened to your career or one of your really interesting career stories and it could be
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_01]: interesting in a good way or interesting bad, like it could be good, like, you know, something
[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_01]: great happened, you saved the day or whatever the case may be or it could be, you made some sort
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: of a stake or, you know, it's up to you. But what is one of your most interesting career
[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_00]: stories that you share with the audience there? Okay. So, asking soltons for every travel quite
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: a bit, right, for a role for different clients, right? You look at different clients, I think
[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: it works up with them and then you go back home. So, I was in, um, it was year and a half ago,
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I was in a Raleigh, North Carolina for one of my clients. They're a really big bank.
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So, we stayed at the Marriott Bumbleboy, I came downtown Raleigh.
[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to, when they were there for like four nights, by the way, I was really nice
[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_00]: at the way you should definitely visit it. Super nice, super small. That's my privilege.
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I just been to the airport, that's, the airport snows.
[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It is, it's actually kind of small though, but I like it a lot though.
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, um, so we're there for four days, right? On the final day, right?
[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_00]: My flight was like at, um, I think, 630. They look up like really early to get catch and fly,
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I look up for, and I was waiting in the air. And I've already been set the whole
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_00]: to lobby, but because it's like 420 a.m., nobody is there, right? It's completely empty, right?
[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just like their receptionist and they like to clean his uh.
[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And so, um, I was waiting there and I, at the corner, I'm like,
[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: is that naked guy in the lobby? I'm like, oh my god, there's no way. I'm like,
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, there's no way. I'm like, turn around again, I'm like, oh god, I'm like, it's actually
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: you can clean naked. Um, and uh, the lady walks up and says she's like, say, why can't you
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: clean naked here? Um, and so if they're talking, it's true that I come to say running,
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: say, flashlight and the sight and say, why ain't naked in my lobby? Um, and so that's a
[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: curie guy actually runs like the bus shuttle system for them to take you towards the airport.
[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You took me towards that toward the airport. And you tell me what happened. So basically, um,
[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_00]: like I was seconded executive at one of these companies, right, and they had like a party last night
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and he got plaster drunk, right? So he likes stumbled up towards his hotel room.
[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_00]: He's, I guess he took off all clothes fell asleep, walk up by two in the morning.
[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Then it walked outside his hotel room, but he's naked. So he said, I have a hotel key so we can't
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_00]: get back inside. He's the walk all the way down. Give me a little bit of a clean naked and go
[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: towards the hotel, um, front desk is going to new key. Um, and he says that happens a decent amount
[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_00]: of time, actually. Um, so I was just, I guess it was funny too because he told me that he was like
[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_00]: a part of the member for America. So another one I basically call this company, if you can't be
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_00]: to make you fully naked, okay, love. I can fully make a local sauce ever. Don't shoot. I'm
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_02]: sure. I'm not. That's pretty one of the one is the one is the one is the one is the one we had.
[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You had it in the pot. I was just like, I'm like, I guess too early for this man. I'm trying
[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_02]: to go back to Dallas and you, you a traveling for a conference for work for my client. For work.
[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. So was he, was he involved? Was he like, no, no, no, completely different company.
[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just so you don't get it. Just, yeah. Yeah, I guess it company had a party across a street.
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I had different hotel and then you got complete drunk this forgot about it in the clothes when you
[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_02]: went inside the hotel room. Oh, uh, thanks for that word, Kevin. That was a party between his
[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_02]: story. You had a new podcast so far. That was absolutely wow. Wow, bro. Now I appreciate
[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_01]: you so much. Thank you for coming on to the podcast and before we ended off, I just wanted to ask you
[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_01]: if you had anything you wanted to plug, promote and share to the audience. Yes, actually do. So we
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: do run a sub to your training consultant company called Elintus Abricagamy or ESA for short. So we do
[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_00]: some sort of extir our translusions or thank us for our classic ex source, my fan to San
[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Sentinel one, the technological platforms we designed solutions and train programs for our students.
[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_00]: All programs are really hands on programs about six nine months long. Our guarantee to our
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: students is you get accent towards me and my staff until your research goes. So that takes you
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: four months, hope it takes you 18 months, even better, right? You still get accent toward me, right?
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, as you got word from my students last night, um, they just got a new substitute in
[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_00]: opposition. It's like spigorous and they got their salary $3,000, $4,000. So yeah, it's pretty good
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_00]: to late last night, very excited around. Um, so yeah, even any questions about it, three shots towards
[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_00]: me over LinkedIn, our site will be inside the comments probably. I'll give it to you. So you can say
[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: that. Or I'm also inside of our day, cyber walk channel as well. So feel free to hit me with
[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_01]: there too. Amazing. Amazing. I will be linking everything you mentioned in the description
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_01]: of this video. So for the audience, if you want to check out Kenna's ECA, the academy,
[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_01]: uh, check that out with the link below. Um, if you want to follow Kenneth and LinkedIn, check that out.
[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It will be in the description as well. And everything else you mentioned, I'll watch it back
[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and make sure is there. Awesome. Cool. Cool. Thanks so much, Kenna, for being on the podcast today.
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